UPDATED–FYI–APPARENTLY “THE WHOSOEVERS” HAVE BEEN TO THIS PAGE AND THEY DECIDED TO REMOVE ALL THE PICTURES THAT I LINKED TO IN THIS BLOG. THESE PICTURES WERE BLASPHEMOUS AND OFFENSIVE. THEY WERE QUIETLY REMOVED, WITHOUT EXPLANATION OR APOLOGY. IS THAT REPENTANCE OR SHAME? ANYWAYS, I REPLACED THE IMAGES, BUT THEY NO LONGER HAVE THE WHOSOEVERS LOGO ON THEM LIKE THEY ONCE DID.
I am not sure if anyone of you are familiar with the Whosoevers? But they are popular in the church. They have even come to my church and our youth have been captivated. They have Whosoevers shirts, beenies, and hoodies. And I honestly believe that most of the people that support this ministry are genuine believers that desire to see the LOST find JESUS.
On one hand they are about how Jesus reaches everyone–hookers, druggies, sex addicts, homosexuals. That is so wonderful, and true.
On the other hand, some of them seem to not really “come out” of that culture, because they “use that culture to reach people in the world.” They seem to think that normal looking people can’t reach the lost for Christ, because the don’t look cool enough to be relevant. But God can use anybody. He can use a tattooed, long haired, ex-dirtbag. He can use a clean cut preppy person. He can use an old man in a suit. He can use a guy on the side of the road with a bullhorn and a sign. THE ONLY QUALIFICATION THEY NEED IS THE HOLY SPIRIT. If they don’t have the Holy Spirit, it doesn’t matter how cool or impressive they are–no one will be changed.
It has been bothering me for a while, because the leader Ryan Ries, started the ministry when he first got saved. He even cussed in the pulpit and everyone laughed because he was so “raw” for Christ. Sharing the gospel, but so new that he still cussed. BUT, he has been saved now for almost 8 years, and he is still “raw” and he shares his testimony explicitly, he talks about “banging girls.” I feel uncomfortable when he talks like this, disrespected even.
I have tried for a while to give him the benefit of the doubt. He is sharing the gospel. Maybe he does it different? God can use him . . . right?
If anyone doesn’t like them, they are looked at as “old wineskins” — not in touch with the youth. I came out of the world and the occult–and you know what? I HATE IT. Now I don’t care how people dress, but I do think it is important that people are INWARDLY sanctified. And I am confused when believers don’t hate the culture of the world, even after all these years. The longer we walk with Christ, the more and more we change. It isn’t about how you look, it’s about holiness.
15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.” 1 John 2:15
I wanted to share this blog entry that I saw today. It bothered me to no end. Do you also see the satanic images in this artwork? Upside down crosses, all seeing eyes, images of Lucifer, demon wings, blasphemous statements about Christ.
Am I wrong? Too judgmental? I mean if you go to their events you will see some young tattooed ex-something or other talking about Jesus. But I see esoteric/occult symbols all over this. Please look at these pics and see if you see the enemy too!!!
I am posting these pictures here, giving credit to the Whosoevers blog and to the artist they credit, Franco Vescovi.
UPDATE–SINCE THE WHOSOEVER REMOVED THE IMAGES FROM THEIR BLOG, I CAN NO LONGER SHOW YOU THAT THESE IMAGES BELOW ONCE HAD THE WHOSOEVER LOGO ON THEM. BUT THEY DID. I HAD TO RE-POST THESE IMAGES FROM THE VATICAN STUDIOS SITE (WITHOUT THE WHOSOEVER LOGO). AGAIN, THEY WERE REMOVED FROM THE WHOSOEVERS, WITHOUT EXPLANATION OR APOLOGY.
But I want to start with this image.
You see a typical Madona and Child. Except the Child is a skeleton, with a crown of thorns. The bottom says, “What you are I once was. What I am, you will become.” This is blasphemous in relation to our Lord Jesus Christ. Is it not? He did not become a sinner. And we will not become God.
Now look at this one, and remember. This is on a Christian blog!
So, let’s give this the benefit of the doubt. How can we redeem this and make it about Jesus? Uhm. The all seeing eye of Lucifer is highlighted, and the Serpents tongue is on the hand of the woman being tempted by forbidden fruit. But then, look and realize that this is an upside down cross. Do we see Jesus in this? NO.
It gets worse . .
Okay, so again we have the “Eye of Horus” as the center of the cross. Something on the top that I don’t recognize. And this Chicano looking man at the bottom, but he has been enlightened spiritually–not in a Christian way. This is total, blatant occult imagery.
Now we need to see a serpent with a skull inside of it. Because we need to make the cross look cool and worldly right?
And the one above was actually the first one shown in their blog entry and I didn’t really notice much about it. It wasn’t until I had seen the other ones, that I came back to this one and saw something that gave me the chills. So we have an hourglass filled with blood in the center. I assume that has some symbolic meaning. And next to the hourglass, on the left and right sides of the cross there are wings. Demon wings on the left and angel wings on the right. Is this an angel or a demon? Is this about Satan? The angel that became a demon? Now look at the face in the top of the cross. Most would assume that that is Jesus face, but look at how the cross frames one eye. The eye. I believe that this is the face of Lucifer. The eye of Lucifer.
UPDATE–WHEN I WENT TO VATICAN STUDIOS TO GET THE PICTURES BACK ON THIS SITE I FOUND EVEN MORE OBSCENE AND SATANIC IMAGES. ONE WAS AN UPSIDE DOWN CROSS WITH FINGERS ENTERING A VAGINA, SURROUNDED BY A CROWN OF THORNS. I WANT TO VOMIT.
AND YET THE WHOSOEVERS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS EXPLICIT PORNOGRAPHIC, SATANIC BLASPHEMY. SAY WHAT YOU WANT IN THE COMMENTS ABOUT BEING A DIE HARD WHOSOEVER. I DON’T CARE. THAT IS INEXCUSABLE.
I showed these pictures to my husband and he said that this was a Stations of the Cross art exhibit. And that not all of these artists were Christian. So then, why did the Whosoevers put their logo on non-Christian blasphemous art?
Are they not familiar with occult imagery? No, they know it all. Look at this flyer.
So needless to say I am concerned. They seem to in this flyer use the symbols to show that all of these symbols are satanic and we need the Great I Am.
But is that it?
Based on the artwork above, I just don’t know . . .
Here is a T-Shirt that they sell on their website:
Notice the All Seeing Eye at the bottom of the shirt, with the quote “The Blind Shall See.” What shall they see? The eye of Lucifer? I know they will excuse this. Maybe they will say that this is a way to reach non-Christians. Or it is a way to look like the “world” and make Christianity cool. Or maybe they think that it is ironic to use satanic symbols, and relate them to the Bible–reclaiming the eye. I don’t know. They haven’t explained this.
But no matter what, I don’t think they should market the occult to attract the world to Jesus. No matter what, we shouldn’t wear the symbols of Lucifer.
I have been giving them the benefit of the doubt for a long time, ignoring red flags. In fact, today I went to their blog to see if I could see something good–some Jesus, some testimony, some evangelism.
Tell me if I am wrong, but I have searched their blog for months now, and all I see is some Metal Mulisha videos, a Bob Marley video, some pictures of food, or bikes, skateboards, etc. I don’t see Jesus.
I am not writing this to put them on blast. I am and have been praying for them. They have tremendous influence and IF they love Jesus–He will get them on the right track. Will you pray for them with me?
And will you pray, that if this is of the enemy. That the Lord will expose that and put a stop to it. We are so close to the end, and we know that the enemy is a prowling lion seeking whom he can devour. He wants into the church. He finds his way in, even in the midst of people who have a heart to do the right thing. Sometimes, well meaning people don’t know better. Sometimes they don’t want to know. Sometimes they are full of empty excuses.
Also, pray for me. Because I feel like I need to take a public stand in my church. It will not go well. But I can’t sit back and say nothing, when I see a serpent creeping into the church.
“And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” Ephesians 5:11
What do you think? I appreciate your feedback.
You might also like to read: The God of Nothing” (M.C.M.B.)–Christian Music [?], The Whosoevers, and Confusion or Brian “Head” Welch and the Plank in My Eye or I Don’t Get it Brian