Brian Head Welch and Todd Bentley–Calvary Chapel says, “He’s Not Backing Those Dudes”–Really?

Todd Bentley posted this on his Instagram on January 14, 2015

This blog is just an update on something I wrote back in November called, “Calvary Chapel–Is The Church Tolerating the Sin of Balaam and Jezebel.” It was about the ungodliness within the Whosoever movement, and how no one at Calvary Chapel would  answer my question–why are the Whosoevers being allowed to promote wickedness in their evangelistic efforts? During this time there was also a video called “The Whosoevers Exposed” that was being widely circulated. Many people were looking for answers. I was not alone.

Well, on November 14, 2014, Brian Brodersen (senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa) had Ryan Ries on a daily radio show on KWVE, called “Pastor’s Perspective,” to discuss the Whosoever movement, and respond to some of the objections people have to the ministry. You can listen to that program here. Basically, there was a lot of twisting, minimizing, and mocking of our serious concerns. I ended up writing a break down, and commentary of the show called, “My Response to Calvary Chapel’s Pastor’s Perspective on the Whosoever Movement.

Then the hype died down as everyone forgot about what happened, and the dirt was swept under the rug.

No one actually dealt with the issue.

But people forgot about it, and things went back to business as usual.

What can I do? It is frustrating, but life moves on. And this is in the Lord’s hands.

But I want to give a short update on the situation, in case anyone is interested. I watched a shocking video last Friday, which was posted by the Psalm86 channel (YouTube). Her name is S. Walker and her blog is called Reflections From the Wall. She has also written a series called,  “The Fruit of Brian Head Welch.”

Her video is important because one of the things that Brian Brodersen and Ryan Ries said in the interview was that it was okay for Brian Welch to associate with heretical false teachers for two reasons:

1.) They said his associations were OLD. They acted like these connections we see in videos online were from ten years ago. They said he has since matured in the faith.

2.) They said that Brian does not support those ministries. Ryan said, “He’s not backing those dudes.” That he is just a people watcher.

That is not true.

After they told listeners on KWVE that Brian is the real deal Christian who is out there doing the real ministry, Todd Bentley began promoting a conference where he is teaming up with Brian Head Welch.

Todd Bentley is a “minister” who apparently left his disabled wife and three children for his intern, and then decided to stay in ministry. Todd Bentley is a roll on the floor, drunk in the spirit, false teacher. Todd Bentley teaches that God told him to kick a lady in the face to get the Holy Spirit to move, and he did it. He says God tells him to hurt people, and he can share several examples. He is horrible.

If you don’t know who he is, please watch this very short video.

Now here is S. Walkers video:

When I saw this video I was blown away. Not that Brian was teaming up with Todd Bentley, I know that Brian is crazy enough spiritually to do that. What bothered me is that I thought that Calvary Chapel would have probably talked to him about the controversy he is causing, and he would be on his best behavior for a while! But no.

I guess I don’t know what is worse, touring with Korn and Slipknot or ministering with Todd Bentley.

So Ryan lied to us. Brian Brodersen gave him a platform on KWVE and Ryan told us that Brian Head Welch is not backing false teachers. Most of us knew he was; Brian doesn’t hide it. But he is STILL teaming up with false teachers. He was going to minister with a guy that kicks women in the face who are desperate for an experience with God (no matter how fake that experience would be). It is cruel. It is demonic.


I went to the event website a little bit ago and I see that the event has been cancelled due to scheduling difficulties. But as of January 22 it was still being heavily promoted.

Here is a description of what the plan was going to be:

FFM Healing Center March 6-7 @ 7pm Nightly. This Event Is Limited in Seats and You must Register below!


Join us for this amazing “Encounter God” weekend March 6-7 with Special guest Brian “Head” Welch of the band KORN. Brian and Todd Bentley will minister together and Brian will share some of his life experiences and testimony and join Todd in ministry each evening. This is a up close and personal setting to meet and hear for yourself Brian’s amazing story. There will be worship each night with upcoming indie/Alt rock band LUMA lead by Kristen and Travis Estes. Each night there will be healing ministry and Impartation too.

Don’t miss this Special Event at the Fresh Fire Training and Healing Center. YOU MUST REGISTER AS SEATS ARE LIMITED! Direct Link to Register now!

I also want to add another video by S. Walker. In this video you will see Brian Welch in a church group and he is ministering and sharing. He talks about how in church black angel feathers fall on him. And he gets gems from heaven. And all sorts of strange manifestations. These people are wacky. It is another recent connection with false teachers and extreme movements. But Calvary Chapel just softly laughs and then lets their sheep follow this false teacher.

“But what I do, I will also continue to do, that I may cut off the opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the things of which they boast. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.”

(2 Corinthians 11:12-15)

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I have been struggling so much lately. My circumstances and my thoughts. So much of it is just the enemy, but it still wears me out. Like big waves in the ocean. I keep coming up for air and then I get pulled down again. Right now I have fiery darts coming from every different direction. The roaring lion is prowling around my home, and I am worn out.

But I know it is just a season, and if I resist the enemy he will flee from me.

Even if it is just to come back at a more opportune time.

And in all of this, I see my frailty and my humanity and my weakness. I can’t deny it. I am weak. I am tired.

And in all of this, I see my great need for daily salvation.

For the daily forgiveness and for confession.

For communion.

Remembering what He has done for me.

Oh break me Lord.

I need the potters wheel.

I need the Father to hold me and shape me.

And I was sitting here tonight, longing for the Word of God to speak to me exactly where I need it. And I wanted to listen to a Bible study and relax (I am sick). I was thinking how I need to be preached to. I need to hear the gospel. I searched for a David Wilkerson study.

He preaches a true gospel.

Not seeker friendly.

Not accommodating.

The gospel of repentance, obedience, devotion to Christ.

I need that gospel.

I need the truth.

I don’t want my ears tickled.

I don’t want some pastor to tell me that I am doing the best I can, and God understands if I just want to give up and live like normal people for a day (or a week). I don’t want someone to pamper my flesh or to pander to my carnal nature. I don’t want someone to tell me it is okay to just settle. Don’t coddle me; inspire me. Fire me up! I need a drill sergeant to tell me to press into the presence of Christ. I need to train for this war. I need to keep focused.

God says to my heart, “Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number” (Jeremiah 2:32).

I must stay focused!

Sometimes when God wants to get our attention, it hurts /our pride/.

When He reveals our lukewarm or apathetic inner reality.

Our inclinations to just veg out, turn on the TV and /not/ pray about our problems, but ignore them.

Just to ignore the mountain for a bit.

To not have to think.

Oh, Lord forgive me.

Please set me right. Please give me a new heart. Please pray for me Lord, like You prayed for Peter. Please strengthen me to endure these trials. I don’t want some fake positive affirmation of man to hold onto this coming year, I want Your Word and Your Word alone.

“For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all of your heart. I will be found by you says the LORD, and I will bring you back from your captivity.” Jeremiah 29:11-14

He will be found by me.

I will seek Him.

I will be delivered from this captivity.

He is my Hope.

He is my Refuge.

My Deliverer.

My Salvation.

In the end, all of this will just strengthen my faith. So I can endure more and more, with His massive hand enveloping my own.

“For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.” Hebrews 10:36

I am sure that the Lord is just preparing us for the evil days ahead.

“My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials,  knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.” James 1:2-4

Here is the study I was listening to tonight:

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Bethel– Old Stones and Burning Bones

A few weeks ago when I was studying for a Bible Study, a verse in a commentary stuck out to me and I noticed something that I had never really paid attention to before. It was this idea of building false emotional religion, on a place that has a reputation of true spiritual experience.

It was all about Bethel.

If you were to go on a walk through the town of Bethel you would find some rocks that could really tell a story. These rocks have been around thousands of years. In fact, there is one somewhere that was once a pillow for the head of Jacob.

“Surely the LORD is in this place; and I knew it not.”

So Jacob built an altar of remembrance, a pillar, out of the stone he slept upon.

Later, the Lord told him to go back to Bethel and build an altar. So Jacob took his people with him. But first Jacob told them to prepare,

“Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments: And let us arise, and go up to Bethel; and I will make there an altar unto God, who answered me in the day of my distress, and was with me in the way which I went. And they gave unto Jacob all the strange gods which were in their hand, and all their earrings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem.” (Genesis 35:2-4).

Put away your “gods,” get rid of your idols, be set apart for the Lord.

Bury your sins like a dead man.

And the Lord changed his name. No longer would he be called a heel catcher and a deceiver, but he was called Israel, “governed by God.” (Genesis 35:9-10)

And so, time passed and God fulfilled His promise to the children of Jacob /Israel/.

Bethel– “House of God”

Bethel, a place that began as a promise. A place of preparation. A place of repentance. New beginnings. Sanctification.

This experience for Jacob really had nothing to do with, just “God being in this place and I just didn’t know it.” It had to do with God being with Jacob, and Jacob never knew it. This intimacy with God was built on the altar of repentance and consecration to God through faith. Every true altar, and cross is built the same way. It isn’t about the place, it is about the heart.

But people want the short cut. People just want to walk into a place that is “anointed.” They want to receive what they won’t labor for. They want the resurrection power without the cross of obedience. They want to experience God, on their own terms.

It is the same in Bethel. What was once known as a place where Jacob met with God and was born again, and named by his Father in Heaven–became transformed by superstition into this heavenly “stargate,” where these mystical and pagan priests told worshipers they could find a stairway to heaven, a back-door to the born again blessing.

Jeroboam Makes Gold Calves

25 Jeroboam then built up the city of Shechem in the hill country of Ephraim, and it became his capital. Later he went and built up the town of Peniel.

26 Jeroboam thought to himself, “Unless I am careful, the kingdom will return to the dynasty of David. 27 When these people go to Jerusalem to offer sacrifices at the Temple of the Lord, they will again give their allegiance to King Rehoboam of Judah. They will kill me and make him their king instead.”

28 So on the advice of his counselors, the king made two gold calves. He said to the people, “It is too much trouble for you to worship in Jerusalem. Look, Israel, these are the gods who brought you out of Egypt!”

29 He placed these calf idols in Bethel and in Dan—at either end of his kingdom.30 But this became a great sin, for the people worshiped the idols, traveling as far north as Dan to worship the one there.

31 Jeroboam also erected buildings at the pagan shrines and ordained priests from the common people—those who were not from the priestly tribe of Levi.32 And Jeroboam instituted a religious festival in Bethel, held on the fifteenth day of the eighth month, in imitation of the annual Festival of Shelters in Judah. There at Bethel he himself offered sacrifices to the calves he had made, and he appointed priests for the pagan shrines he had made. 33 So on the fifteenth day of the eighth month, a day that he himself had designated, Jeroboam offered sacrifices on the altar at Bethel. He instituted a religious festival for Israel, and he went up to the altar to burn incense. (1 Kings 12)

How horrible. What once was a place for idols to be burried has now become a place where idols are enthroned. Where the God of Israel is depicted by a cow! Not only that, but it imitated the truth. They celebrated an imitation. Of course that made it feel a little less idolatrous. “We do the same things you do in Jerusalem.” and “We are not that different.” After all, they still celebrated the feast of shelters. It felt comfortable, as they held to the traditions. Outwardly it was similar, inwardly there was a golden calf on the throne of their hearts.

False Spirituality

Instead of seeking Yahweh in truth and obedience, and trusting Him to establish his kingdom, Jeroboam set up a religion that would further his personal agenda. False religion empowers and enriches (money teachers, prosperity preachers, faith healers, repentance stealers). It wasn’t just another denomination. It was man made. It was a look alike religion, but with a satanic substitution.

Maybe they told the people, “God is doing a new thing.”

But God Will Judge

At the Lord’s command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, arriving there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to burn incense. Then at the Lord’s command, he shouted, “O altar, altar! This is what the Lord says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you.” That same day the man of God gave a sign to prove his message. He said, “The Lord has promised to give this sign: This altar will split apart, and its ashes will be poured out on the ground.”

Who does the prophet address? It wasn’t Jeroboam, the priests, or the worshipers. He shouts to the stones! The stones of the altar would be more likely to hear the words and respond! Oh, altar, on you will burn the bones of the pagan priests and false teachers! “…The stones of which would sooner hear and yield than those who were mad upon their idols and deaf to divine calls” (Matthew Henry).

When King Jeroboam heard the man of God speaking against the altar at Bethel, he pointed at him and shouted, “Seize that man!” But instantly the king’s hand became paralyzed in that position, and he couldn’t pull it back. At the same time a wide crack appeared in the altar, and the ashes poured out, just as the man of God had predicted in his message from the Lord.

As Jeroboam raged at the boldness of the prophet, that interrupted his solemn ritual, his own hand withered. It was paralyzed. It literally dried up.

And the altar cracked. And ashes poured out. The only sacrifice here that could please God, was the sacrifice of idols and everyone connected with them. Matthew Henry said, “How could the gift be acceptable when the altar that should sanctify it was an abomination? It was a reproach to the people, whose hearts were harder than these stones and rent not under the word of the Lord.”

Their hearts were harder than the stones that broke open at the Word of the Lord.


It Was a Sign

The king cried out to the man of God, “Please ask the Lord your God to restore my hand again!” So the man of God prayed to the Lord, and the king’s hand was restored and he could move it again.

The stones of the altar were broken open. And yet the hearts were harder than stone. The king cries out, for a superficial prayer to be made for him. “Restore my hand!” Please. His hand that was hardened by God, was a sign of a heart that was even more hard, more withered, more paralyzed, and more useless.

And yet, he pleads for prayer from the very man he was just seeking to kill. “The time may come when those that hate the preaching would be glad of the prayers of faithful ministers” (Matthew Henry).

It is ironic. And yet, a prayer is answered and his hand is restored.  But notice, that he had no desire to pray for God to forgive his idolatry, or change his heart. He only cared about restoring the strength of his flesh.

“I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.” Jeremiah 23:14

How many times have you seen faith healers work on the flesh of the unrepentant? Is that really evangelism? Jesus healed people, body and soul. He never sought to heal just body alone. But false spirituality seeks one without the other.

“Do Not Even Eat With Such People . . .”

Then the king said to the man of God, “Come to the palace with me and have something to eat, and I will give you a gift.”

But the man of God said to the king, “Even if you gave me half of everything you own, I would not go with you. I would not eat or drink anything in this place. For the Lord gave me this command: ‘You must not eat or drink anything while you are there, and do not return to Judah by the same way you came.’” 10 So he left Bethel and went home another way.

The man of God was commanded to not fellowship in the house of idolatry. There was no true repentance. He could not sit at their table and endorse them. (1 Corinthians 5:11)

Isn’t this true with all healing ministry. If a man has a miracle affecting his flesh he is for sure grateful. He will deal kindly to the minister or prophet, even maybe tithing. But unless his heart is healed, he walks away unregenerate.

So the man of God leaves.

The Sin of Doubt, A Personal Compromise

11 As it happened, there was an old prophet living in Bethel, and his sons came home and told him what the man of God had done in Bethel that day. They also told their father what the man had said to the king. 12 The old prophet asked them, “Which way did he go?” So they showed their father which road the man of God had taken. 13 “Quick, saddle the donkey,” the old man said. So they saddled the donkey for him, and he mounted it.

14 Then he rode after the man of God and found him sitting under a great tree. The old prophet asked him, “Are you the man of God who came from Judah?”

“Yes, I am,” he replied.

15 Then he said to the man of God, “Come home with me and eat some food.”

16 “No, I cannot,” he replied. “I am not allowed to eat or drink anything here in this place. 17 For the Lord gave me this command: ‘You must not eat or drink anything while you are there, and do not return to Judah by the same way you came.’”

18 But the old prophet answered, “I am a prophet, too, just as you are. And an angel gave me this command from the Lord: ‘Bring him home with you so he can have something to eat and drink.’” But the old man was lying to him. 19 So they went back together, and the man of God ate and drank at the prophet’s home.

“I am a prophet too.” Of course it would happen in the place of false religion that there would be a false prophet, that would conjure up some lie to trip up the man of God. And in disobedience to the Word of God, this man of God fell prey to the lies of a false prophet.

Oh Lord protect us, from those old prophets. Protect us from listening to the old respected men whose names once stood for your Word and your Truth. Please protect us from trusting in men, doubting your Spirit, and compromising your Word.

20 Then while they were sitting at the table, a command from the Lord came to the old prophet. 21 He cried out to the man of God from Judah, “This is what the Lord says: You have defied the word of the Lord and have disobeyed the command the Lord your God gave you. 22 You came back to this place and ate and drank where he told you not to eat or drink. Because of this, your body will not be buried in the grave of your ancestors.”

This old man had deceived the young prophet. “If he had been a good prophet he would have reproved Jeroboam’s idolatry, and not have suffered his sons to attend his altars, as, it should seem, they did.” (Matthew Henry). If the old prophet was a true and holy prophet, the Lord wouldn’t have had to sent this young man of God out of his way to prophesy at Bethel.

“I suppose it was done with a bad design, to draw him into a snare, and so to expose him; for false prophets have ever been the worst enemies to the true prophets . . . God’s people are more in danger of being drawn from their duty by the plausible pretenses of divinity and sanctity than by external inducements; we have therefore need to beware of false prophets, and not believe every spirit.” (Matthew Henry).

I find it interesting that the most dangerous threat to God’s people is not the king, or the government that has the power to kill us–but spiritual deception that comes from corrupted and compromising religious leaders.

And the judgment came upon the man of God. A lion came and attacked him.

For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? (1 Peter 4:17)

When the old prophet found his body, he buried him in his own grave. Maybe he was identifying with the man of God? Maybe he was feeling his own hand in this man’s death? Maybe he worried about the judgment that may come upon him for his own disobedience to God as a prophet?

He cried out as in agony. “He had reason to think, if he must die for his disobedience in a small matter who sinned by surprise, of how much sorer punishment he should be thought worthy who had belied an angel of God and cheated a man of God by a deliberate forgery. If this were done to the green tree, what shall be done to the dry?” (Matthew Henry).

And yet, even with a broken altar and broken stones. Idolatry continued. Jeroboam went on unchanged.

33 But even after this, Jeroboam did not turn from his evil ways. He continued to choose priests from the common people. He appointed anyone who wanted to become a priest for the pagan shrines. 34 This became a great sin and resulted in the utter destruction of Jeroboam’s dynasty from the face of the earth.

What was the point of all of this?

Was it even worth it?

Well, 300 years later a king was born. His name was Josiah. His birth was predicted by this same prophet who stood up to King Jeroboam. Within 56 years of Josiah’s birth, he would fulfill this prophesy and burn the bones of those priests upon those very stones.

15 Josiah also broke down the altar and high place at Bethel. Jeroboam son of Nebat had made this altar. Jeroboam caused Israel to sin.  Josiah broke down both that altar and the high place. He broke the stones of the altar to pieces. Then he beat it into dust and he burned the Asherah pole. 16 Josiah looked around and saw graves on the mountain. He sent men, and they took the bones from the graves. Then he burned the bones on the altar. In this way Josiah ruined the altar. This happened according to the message from the Lord that the man of God announced. The man of God announced these things when Jeroboam stood beside the altar at the feast.

Then Josiah looked around and saw the grave of the man of God.

17 Josiah said, “What is that monument I see?”

The people of the city told him, “It is the grave of the man of God who came from Judah. This man of God told about the things you have done to the altar at Bethel. He said them a long time ago.”

18 Josiah said, “Leave the man of God alone. Don’t move his bones.” So they left his bones and the bones of the man of God from Samaria.

So Josiah burned the bones of the pagan priests. This act certainly didn’t hurt them. But it did, and still does, serve as a striking picture of their eternal fate, where the fire is never quenched.

The altar was destroyed, but there may be a few stones still there, telling a story. Reminding us that we need to come to the altar of Christ, we need to pick up our cross and obey the Word of the Lord. We meet God at an altar, but we can’t set up our own. We need to come to the place where He set it up–the Cross of Jesus Christ. He alone is our Lamb and our High Priest forever.

“For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus” 1 Timothy 2:5

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.” Matthew 7:13

It is interesting how so many churches call themselves Bethel, “House of God.” And yet, even Bethel was corrupted by false spirituality. The namesake is not just Jacob, but Jeroboam as well. I can think of a rather famous church right now, called Bethel. It seems to be following in the traditions of Jeroboam, mixing “church” with man made false teaching and paganism.

But praise the Lord our Savior! Our God who desires us to worship Him in Spirit and Truth. Our God leads us into all Truth! We can be close to God. We can be the people that the Lord will draw near to! It comes down to our hearts.

“The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.” Psalm 34:18

“The LORD is near unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth.” Psalm 145:18

“For this is what the high and exalted One says– he who lives forever, whose name is holy: “I live in a high and holy place, but also with the one who is contrite and lowly in spirit, to revive the spirit of the lowly and to revive the heart of the contrite.” Isaiah 57:15

It isn’t about where you are geographically is it? It is about where God meets the sinner; it is about the true altar. Come to the Cross of Christ, repent of sin, take up your cross, and follow Jesus.

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My Response To Calvary Chapel’s Pastor’s Perspective Program on The Whosoever Movement

Inside the KWVE Studios Friday November 21, 2014. Interview with Ryan Ries of the Whosoevers on Pastors Perspective

For months now I have been wanting to hear what Pastor Brian Brodersen’s thoughts were on what I have seen happening in the Whosoever movement.

As I shared in my last post “Calvary Chapel and the Whosoevers–Is The Church Tolerating The Sin of Balaam and Jezebel,” over the last few months I have been calling and emailing Pastor Brian repeatedly. I was hoping and praying to hear back from him. I honestly thought that maybe he didn’t understand what was going on with things inside the movement. I thought he would at the very least be interested, even concerned. I know I am not the only one that cares about these issues. I see people on Facebook, everyday, asking the same questions and hoping for the same answers.

So when I received a phone call on Friday afternoon that Brian Brodersen was addressing the Whosoever movement on Pastor’s Perspective I was thrilled. If you are not familiar with Calvary Chapels, Pastor’s Perspective is a radio program where you can call in live and ask questions. Well, on Friday November 14 the whole show was dedicated to the issues many people are seeing with the Whosoevers.

Finally, a response! I could finally hear what Pastor Brian thinks of all of this!

Honestly, it was good to hear something come out of his mouth. He is the senior pastor of one of the largest Bible teaching church fellowships in the United States. But what I heard was not only disappointing, it was shocking.

It knocked the wind out of me.

I sat in my car, in a random parking lot that I had pulled into to listen for an hour, and cried. As the concerns of many loving Christians were minimized, marginalized and vilified.

But this isn’t about me. I am not here to defend myself or what I wrote. I do still stand by it. I have prayed to the Lord to help me write this. Because first and foremost I need to have a spirit of humility. I am nobody. I am not here to win an argument. Pastor Brian is smarter than I am, and he has accomplished more in his life than I have. He wins.

However, I want to respond. This is not written to correct Pastor Brian. He has taken his stand. But, I am writing this to those who have emailed me asking me what I think of the show.

Since I am getting emails asking for my response, I am going to respond to a few key points. I am going to paraphrase some of the comments as best as I can. Please feel free to listen to the show to get exact word for word quotations.

“Raw Language”

First of all, at the beginning of the show they ask Ryan why there is “raw language” on his website. They must be referring to the youtube video of the KORN concert that the Whosoevers posted on their website, where you could hear the F-word over and over and over and over again. This video has since been removed.

Ryan responded by saying that they want to show the good, the bad, and the ugly of Christianity. That our generation wants raw truth. They want you to be straight up, to talk about sex addiction, suicide, cutting, etc. He said that Nikki Minaj’s album cover is pornographic and every kid sees it and is exposed to this stuff.

My question is- What? So, wait? What is your answer to that question? Because who told you that you shouldn’t talk to kids honestly about sex addiction, suicide and cutting? Nobody has ever criticized you for that! The question is, why does your Christian website have the F-word on it? Why do members of the Whosoevers use foul language and unwholesome words? Is that a prerequisite for reaching the youth? Why do you act like the only way to reach out to troubled youth is offensive language? Oh wait, you don’t call it offensive language you call it “raw language.” Why does that make it more real? Phrases like “butt naked wrestling” and “banging girls” do not belong in the pulpit Ryan. Standing in your father’s pulpit on a Sunday morning and saying, “Let me lay hands on you and pray for you” while you reach your hands out as if you are grabbing a girls breasts, laughing, and then saying “don’t do that when you pray for girls” is irreverent to the Lord. Not only that it makes women feel uncomfortable, and disrespected. You say that you care about these troubled youth, so consider how that might make a troubled young victim of sexual abuse feel–very uncomfortable.

How about the “raw language” that Head uses, in the video from Denver that you are using to justify that God is doing amazing things on the tour? You posted a video on your Facebook (below) and you are proud of the ministry that took place there. But what about the “raw language” that came out of Head’s mouth as he “shared Christ“– “Oingo Boingo, Duran Duran BS,” “Meth grabbed me by the b@lls,” “That religion that we saw on TV when we were growing up . . . most of it was BS!” or how about when he began his prayer at the end, “Lord, Look . . . There has been a bunch of BS sold to us Lord . . .”

Irreverent and ungodly.

So people put their thumbs up in the air, to respond to a positive message. How many of them do you honestly think just got saved? How many of them just picked up the cross? How many of those people are convicted of sin and repentant? How many are going to get in their cars and throw out their Korn and Slipknot CDs? How many of them are really going to go and listen to the Shine Bible studies after they were just told by Head, that all that church stuff they saw on TV as kids is “BS.” It was an easy message, and you got a positive response. On top of all of it, it was a message filled with anger at traditional Christianity and filthy language.

Dear brothers and sisters, not many of you should become teachers in the church, for we who teach will be judged more strictly.  Indeed, we all make many mistakes. For if we could control our tongues, we would be perfect and could also control ourselves in every other way . . .And so blessing and cursing come pouring out of the same mouth. Surely, my brothers and sisters, this is not right!  Does a spring of water bubble out with both fresh water and bitter water?  Does a fig tree produce olives, or a grapevine produce figs? No, and you can’t draw fresh water from a salty spring.” (James 3:1-2, 10-12)

I don’t see a verse underneath that qualifies that “raw language” is okay if the times are wild and you need to be relevant to the culture you are trying to reach.

Has Brian Welch Matured?

The second thing that I want to address is the question that was asked, “Has Brian Welch matured?” Ryan replies, “Totally.” It was in reference to the videos online. Probably Whosoevers Exposed.  They went on to say that yes he has matured and that the videos online are from 10 years ago, and they are old and irrelevant. Which isn’t exactly true . . . Since the older videos show him a bit more godly than the newer ones . . .

Ryan made a bold statement, “God led him back to Korn. Those are his best friends he grew up with his whole life.” He says that Brian is able to show them love, and share Christ with them. I find this statement presumptuous.

He is saying that God led Head back to Korn, and he is expecting that statement to settle any questions critics might have. Well, is God leading Head other places? Did God lead Head to the Benny Hinn event? Did God lead Head to Bethel Redding? Did God lead Head to the occult Supernatural Bible School (last month)? If God is leading Head, then why would there be so many strange places Head is going?

Brian Brodersen followed with, “When your walk is solid we need to be able to go pretty much any place. Jesus wasn’t afraid to go anywhere.”

This sounds good, but this just isn’t true.

First of all, you can’t just go anywhere. You can’t just go to a strip club, sit down and share Jesus with a girl that is dancing for you, just because your walk is solid. You can’t go watch 50 Shades of Grey with a bunch of lonely dissatisfied women, just so you can witness to them about purity afterwards.

Second of all, this whole statement is predicated on the idea that Brian Welch has a solid walk. Which has not been demonstrated at all, and is exactly what is being brought into question!

Before we even go on to talk about him playing in Korn, or touring with Slipknot. Why don’t we look at his supposedly “Christian” work? This song “Flush” is one of his videos that he did 3 years after leaving Korn to follow Jesus. It is about how addictive and destructive an addiction to meth can be. I would suggest you DON’T watch this video, because it features two women in bras and underwear licking red powder off each others half naked bodies rubbing their chests, engaging in lesbian behavior and it is extremely erotic and distasteful. Again, this is his work as a “Christian.” But don’t watch it, unless, like Brian Brodersen says your walk is solid–because then, we can by all means tempt ourselves into sexual immorality.

Like seriously though, don’t watch this:

Click here if you don’t believe me, and you want to see the video “Flush”

[I removed the embedded video because the image was too gross]

Head says that this song is about “flushing all the crap in life down the toilet and starting out fresh.” I guess lesbian erotica helps you do that? 

Pastor Brian went on to share a truly endearing story of Head ministering to his sister in a very sweet and compassionate way. He was blessed.

He said that because of this incident, when people come up to him with information like I presented in my article, he shrugs his shoulders and says, “I don’t have time for this . . . When was the last time you led anyone to Christ?” Then he laughed, and went on, “You been telling any heroin addicts about Jesus lately?”

This sounds like he basically makes negative assumptions and scoffs at the very watchmen that are trying to contend for the faith. Instead of being willing to address the difficulties and edify the church; it is like Brian Welch is above error, just because one time he had a good conversation with Pastor Brian’s sister.

He goes on to say in his soft thoughtful voice, “Often times, the ones criticizing the loudest are the ones who really aren’t doing anything, except sitting around criticizing the ones who are out doing it.”

Wow. Basically, he is saying that as believers we need to “be quiet” about all this. Because if you voice a concern, it means that you are failing at serving God. That is very subtle manipulation. And it isn’t even true! You don’t even know me, or the people making the videos or the other writers. You don’t know that I couldn’t even write this response until today because I was involved in actually serving God this weekend! But that doesn’t matter. Because even if I wasn’t serving God this weekend–this argument is a logical fallacy! Brian Brodersen is smart too, so he even knows what Ad Hominem means.

And, I must say that I get this response a lot. Especially from the Whosoever crowd. And it is a tactic of bullying. Instead of assailing me with assumptions, why don’t you just use a Bible verse and show me where I am wrong? That works much better. And it is Biblical.

But Ryan says, “Head and Sonny are the real deal. True Christians, true love, leading thousands of people to the Lord.” He then goes on to make a /prophetic/ declaration I guess that when we get to heaven we are all going to see who gets all the crowns, it won’t be the criticizers. Anyone who criticizes the movement will stand and watch as Jesus gives all the crowns to Head and Fieldy.

Perfect Theology?

The interview goes on, and this will be the third thing that I feel needs to be addressed. Ken Sutton asks Ryan this question, “Sonny and Head, these guys don’t have perfect theology do they?” *pause* Ryan repeats, “…perfect theology…” soft laughter fills the studio. As everyone chuckles at the idea that anyone has perfect theology.

Sutton explains, “this is the nuances: they have said this . . . they have done that . . . gone to this church . . . they don’t have perfect theology do they?”

So Ryan goes on to explain why this is understandable. “When you are a rock star you meet everyone . . . you meet all the freaks.”

He shared a story of a time when Head sent him a picture, and he asked where he was and found out that  Head was at a Benny Hinn event. At this point in the conversation, everyone laughed again (the laughter was weird to me throughout this whole interview). And Ryan said he texted him, “You’re a weirdo, dude.” And they laughed again (is this really funny?) Apparently the reason that Head finds himself at Benny Hinn events, in the Holy Ghost movie, serving communion and toking “baby Jesus” with John Crowder, rolling on the ground “drunk in the Spirit” at Bethel Redding, and recently graduating from Jonathan Welton’s Supernatural Bible School, is because he is just a people watcher. Ryan said,  “He’s not backing those dudes.” Head just wants to check out everything.

Now these are lies. This is simply not true. People will hear this on the radio, and believe that it is true. But it is a lie. And I cannot say that in a nicer way. This is not old news; it isn’t that he used to be into all this stuff, but he is not anymore. No. This is what he is into, he is proud of it, and he isn’t going to change. He has said so. Recently.

Question online

It sounds like now he knows better, But it is the irony of the non-response because they are not saying that he no longer supports Crowder, just that he is now aware.

And since when does Calvary Chapel laugh at the question of bad theology?

Is that a new thing?

When Pastor Chuck died, did we then get free reign to read The Shack? 

And so why did you pull Gungor off the radio list Brian? (insert soft laughter). If it doesn’t matter if they have perfect theology or not?

In fact, I saw someone ask Ryan if he had warned Brian Welch about John Crowder. And Ryan responded yes, that he is aware. They are acting as if Brian has been warned and repented of his ungodly connections. It couldn’t be further from the truth! (If you don’t know who John Crowder is, why he is demonic, and how Brian is connected to him, click here and scroll down).

This person makes a good point. Head has not renounced false teachers, he continues to promote them.

This person makes a good point. Head has not renounced false teachers, he continues to promote them.

In fact three months ago, Brian Welch asked people to donate money to a ministry that supports John Crowder.

In fact three months ago, Brian Welch asked people to donate money to a ministry that supports John Crowder.

john crowder book

The Fire House Project, that Head asked Christians to give money to recommends a book by John Crowder. They are super mystical, and their doctrine is dangerous.

Brian Welch teaches us to get drunk in the Spirit as he rolls around on the floor, telling us that God loves us like a man loves his wife’s naked body. It is so strange. (March 2014)

He asks people to pray for an experience with God, “Say it with me, ‘Jesus. I don’t know what this is all about. But I know Head wouldn’t lie to me. Show me that these angels are real. Show me that your spirit is real. Show me that you are really God. I want to know the truth. Show me the way. Amen.'”

Wow. But I know Head wouldn’t lie to me? Show me these angels are real? Is that the gospel?

Too Worldly?

Ryan posted this on his Facebook with the caption “Are the Whosoevers devil worshipers? The Whosoevers exposed.” You can see how seriously he takes these allegations.

The next thing that I want to talk about is the discussion on worldliness. They began to address the critics who say that the movement is too worldly.

Ryan addressed this by saying you need to be in the world, and not of it. Okay. He went on to say, “you gotta be in the world if you are going to reach people.”

I agree. But I disagree that it means it is okay to be worldly to reach people. He uses the example of Jesus taking the disciples to Caesarea Philippi, this is a place where they used to worship Pan, and it was worldly, and demonic and people were even sacrificed there. Except. Jesus didn’t take them to a pagan festival. He took them there because he was about to take three of them up Mt. Hermon and be transfigured before their eyes. You can’t just take this portion of Scripture and act like this was Jesus taking them to a Korn show, being a light in darkness.

Brian Brodersen goes on to say, “Do not judge according to appearance. Judge what is right according to truth. I have the advantage of knowing you Ryan. I know you, I know your heart, I know your story, I know your love for Christ, so I completely trust you. When I hear you are on tour with Slipknot (everyone laughs) what was that tour called? (Ryan says, ‘Prepare for Hell’ and everyone laughs again) Yeah, when I see that I’m not worried thinking gosh I hope Ryan doesn’t jump in there . . . because I know you. People who don’t really know, they are looking from appearance and making a judgement call. I think if people knew Head. If you knew Sonny. If you knew they were in the trenches . . . I think one of the mistakes is to think as Christians we are to isolate ourselves . . .”

Pastor Brian please stop worrying about what the critics think, and please start worrying about what the new believers think!

Because, there are many people that are making a judgment about this. The least of all is me. I am honestly not at all stumbled into sin by this. I came out of this lifestyle and I hate it and I am not at all looking at this and thinking, “Hmmm. Maybe it is okay for me to listen to Slipknot again?”

But there are those who are thinking that. They are looking at this ministry, and seeing head post pictures from backstage at the Slipknot shows and judging that they can have that life and walk with Christ.

Don’t worry about what I think about this.

Worry about what THOSE people think.

A woman posted on the Pastors Perspective Facebook page this weekend:

Pastors’ Perspective – Brian Welch joins this video around the 9 or 10 minute mark. This is NOT a 10yr old video – this is from 1 yr ago. Warning – the whole video is completely foul and evil. Who is getting the glory here? Certainly not Jesus. While you pastors had Ryan Ries sitting in front of you in the studio, you should have given him godly/pastorly advice to walk away from this darkness. Instead, you promoted it. Shame. Ryan says he had a porn problem. Have you seen the mic stand that Korn uses? It’s a naked woman’s body. As pastors, shouldn’t you be advising Ryan to walk away from that, too? Your program was not honest and was just a promo for The Whosoevers. Where are the testimonies of young people walking away from this darkness? Not going to happen because they are actually being invited to join it! I am very disappointed in the leadership of the church that we have been a part of for 30 years. Stop pretending that this ministry is actually doing anything. It is only indulging sinfulness. Korn and Slipknot lyrics and images are evil and there is no way Ryan Ries should be on tour with them. I cannot even believe that Brian Brodersen said that God called Brian Welch back into Korn. Have you lost your mind?

Pastor Brian and Pastors Perspective, both, did not respond to her. 

The link she posted shows Head performing with Rob Zombie (who I used to love). It is so hard to watch this and wonder how a believer could 1.) think this is okay and 2.) not get their heart sucked back into the the worldly love of it.

Pastor Brian says worldliness is about our hearts, but how can you say Head’s heart is not into Korn’s music? That isn’t true. He loves it. He admits it. In the video posted above, you see Head performing “Am I Evil” with these bands.

So you can’t tell me that people are not going to be stumbled back into worldliness thinking that they can have both–satanic music and worship, Slipknot, J-Devil and Christ, darkness and light–when the Whosoevers certainly are having both.

THAT should matter to you Pastor Brian.

THAT is righteous judgment.

“Abstain from all appearance of evil.” (1 Thessalonians 5:22)

Why? So you don’t stumble others!

When I was in a dating relationship, I was taught by Calvary Chapels that I shouldn’t be seen snuggling in a car with my love interest, because of the appearance of evil. We shouldn’t be alone at my house late at night, because of the appearance of evil. We shouldn’t go on vacation together before we are married, because of the appearance of evil.

Chuck Smith never said that it is okay to go on vacation getaways with my love interest if he knows us. Other people might think we are fornicating . . . but that is just because they do not know us. But Pastor Chuck knows our hearts . . . And when was the last time they shared with a heroin addict? But really, it is fine! He knows our hearts, and our love for Jesus, etc. People are just being judgmental and legalistic. NOPE. 

Pastor Brian knows their hearts.

“The heart is deceitful above all things,
And desperately wicked;
Who can know it?” (Jeremiah 17:9)

Where are the Whosoevers being careful to ABSTAIN from ALL APPEARANCE of EVIL?

This is not even mentioned.

It is just dismissed with, “well, you don’t know them well enough.”

At one point they even said that Slipknot is probably just putting on an evil facade. It is just a show. So they are giving the idea that these guys are really not that bad, it is just a show. They just like to put on the appearance of evil, for fun. They are sheep in wolves clothing, really. Well, maybe goats clothing would be more appropriate.

Cool. Anyone have the gift of discerning of spirits? If so, see how far you can get in this song without feeling something literally demonic. Go ahead and pray over your home afterwards too, to close the door you just opened.

Then it gets really ridiculous.

It Is Just a Job

After Pastor Brian discusses Christians isolating themselves, he talks about this idea that if you are a Christian musician people think you need to be in a Christian band or on a Christian label and that people think you are bad if you aren’t. He says, “That’s a wrong thing. We would never apply that anywhere else. If I’m a carpenter I don’t have to work with a Christian contractor.” He says it is the same with a mechanic, and so on. He says, “If I’m a musician, this is my job. I want to be a witness. I look at Sonny and Head, and that’s what they’re doing.”

Well, there is a huge difference between working as a carpenter (which is a job that Jesus did) and playing in a satanic band. Right? There is a difference between being a mechanic and a stripper. Right? There are certain jobs you need to resign from when you choose to pick up a cross. If your job causes you to sin against God you need to quit.

Playing music in Korn is a sin. The songs are blasphemous, pornographic, and R-rated. We are not talking about playing back up for Stevie Wonder.

Christians can’t even listen to Korn without sinning. Period. And now that line has been blurred.

Brian Welch performed this song about a year ago. It probably has over 300 F-words. It looks like Brian is having a good time too. Brian needs to repent.

So now you have people singing worship songs at Shine, and singing Korn songs in the car on the way home from church. Interesting.

Brian said that with the “Coorperate America Anti-Christ Agenda” who can you work for? Basically implying that working for Target and Starbucks is equally Anti-Christ. So here we have again another logical fallacy Pastor Brian–False Comparison.  A carpenter is not the same type of job as a guitarist in Korn.

And to imply that the critics think it is wrong to work a secular job, and we just hide in our houses, isolating ourselves, with our “Christian yellow pages” is again, another insult, based on assumption, intended to silence the critics.

John the Baptist

I am almost done with this response. What I say isn’t going to change anything anyways. But I do want to point out something. Ryan mentioned that people at Knotfest came up to his booth saying, “there were Christians outside telling us we were going to go to hell and we need to repent.” He said that it was turn or burn, and unloving. He said that the Slipknot fans said that they liked the Whosoevers better, because they are all love.

Woe to you when all men speak well of you,
    For so did their fathers to the false prophets.” (Luke 6:26)

Just sayin.

He said, “99% of all Christians won’t walk in there because they are terrified of the place because it is dark.” and he finished with comparing the Whosoever presence there to the ministry of John the Baptist.

If you were preaching like John the Baptist Ryan, the Slipknot fans would not have loved you or welcomed you at all. Be honest.

John the Baptist preached, “Repent of your sins and turn to God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is near.”

“You brood of snakes!” he exclaimed. “Who warned you to flee God’s coming wrath?  Prove by the way you live that you have repented of your sins and turned to God.  Don’t just say to each other, ‘We’re safe, for we are descendants of Abraham [or maybe some other man of God].’ That means nothing, for I tell you, God can create children of Abraham from these very stones.  Even now the ax of God’s judgment is poised, ready to sever the roots of the trees. Yes, every tree that does not produce good fruit will be chopped down and thrown into the fire.

 “I baptize with water those who repent of their sins and turn to God. But someone is coming soon who is greater than I am—so much greater that I’m not worthy even to be his slave and carry his sandals. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. He is ready to separate the chaff from the wheat with his winnowing fork. Then he will clean up the threshing area, gathering the wheat into his barn but burning the chaff with never-ending fire.” (Matthew 3)

John the Baptist did not set up a tent at a pagan festival to sell t-shirts and hand out CD’s of his testimony. He preached a hard message.

He literally preached turn or burn.

Didn’t you say that was a bad thing to do?

What is funny is that you laugh at Benny Hinn (a fake teacher who lies and steals from God’s people). You excuse all of Head’s ministry connections that have “imperfect theology.” All those false teachers get a free pass and a soft laugh. The ONLY ministry you come against are the ones who preached the gospel to the people going to Knotfest. Why? They had the word of God coming out of their mouth and they were speaking truth. People actually stood there and repented. Are they not on the same team you are playing for?

I am reminded of what Jesus said in John 15

“If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first. The world would love you as one of its own if you belonged to it, but you are no longer part of the world. I chose you to come out of the world, so it hates you. Do you remember what I told you? ‘A slave is not greater than the master.’ Since they persecuted me, naturally they will persecute you. And if they had listened to me, they would listen to you.  They will do all this to you because of me, for they have rejected the one who sent me.”

Now I am not saying we need to be mean to people, at all. We shouldn’t. But those people outside were not being mean. They were preaching. Preaching like John the Baptist. Outside the gates. Maybe most of the Slipknot fans did not appreciate their message because they love darkness rather than light. And maybe, they don’t mind your message so much because it doesn’t convict them of sin.

“And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil.  All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants.” (John 3:19-21)

Knotfest 2014

Final Thoughts

So in conclusion, I finally have my response from Pastor Brian. He said it at the beginning of the program:

“We are really happy that you are here. Really blessed that you are doing Thursday nights with Shine. We just want to continue to pray for you. And man, when I hear about you preaching at Slipknot concerts I just think that is absolutely amazing.”

It isn’t what I wanted to hear, but at least now I know where Calvary Chapels are choosing to stand, what they are willing to overlook and ignore, and who they are choosing to insult.

It is a little shocking. It is very sad.

I am grieving, literally crying over what is happening. Ryan assumes that people like me are critical because we don’t get it. The opposite is true. I get it. I am critical because I was in it. I came out of it. I see the demons behind it. And I don’t see people getting rescued, but false converts putting their thumbs up to a positive message, thinking they are saved, and walking away unregenerated.

I am so broken.

But I am still praying.

I still love the people of Calvary Chapel. Of course. I am fervent in prayer for them to see the truth. They will hear the good stuff from the Whosoevers movement. They will hear rational explanations, soft laughter, and Biblical sounding encouragement from Ryan. In fact the show ended with him giving a pot addict a very good message of repentance. They will see Pastor Brian Brodersen support them no matter what, and “not have time” for any serious information.

Good people will be confused because after all, how can it be bad when Ryan says some really good things. They forget that the enemy uses a LOT of truth to conceal a tiny error. Like Jacob Prasch says, “Every mouse trap, has real cheese.”

But please don’t forget that even a little leaven will spread, and leaven the whole lump.

Please don’t tolerate leaven in your life.

Please don’t compromise with leaven in your church.

In the end, you are really going to have to look at the facts for yourself, and line them up according to the Word of God. Please don’t blindly follow what I am saying. And don’t just follow what Pastor Brian says, just because he is smart and successful. It doesn’t matter. We are all accountable for what we know. We all have to look to the Word of God, and not the smooth words of man, in order to discern truth from error.

I am praying for everyone who sees this. God bless you.

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,  teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,  looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works. Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you. (Titus 2:11-15)

You can’t argue with that verse, even if you softly laugh in a radio studio.

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Calvary Chapel and the Whosoevers–Is The Church Tolerating The Sin of Balaam and Jezebel?

Oh The Sweet, Refreshing Wisdom of Tozer (Please Watch–5 minutes)

If you attend Calvary Chapel, or love someone who does, please pray about what you are about to read. Ask God to show you what to do with this information. Don’t just read this, and then choose apathy. Calvary Chapels are full of sweet God loving people. Please bring this information to the leaders, the pastors, youth pastors, members, and anyone who will listen. Maybe someone will stand up and be heard.

In the book of Revelation, we have the Lord Jesus Christ writing to the churches. Some of His comments are positive, but some are also very harsh. None of us would like to think that He has any correction to bring to our churches, but it is pure stupidity to think that we are above any of what He has to say.

To the church of Pergamos Jesus says, “But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality.” (Rev. 2:14) And to the church of Thyatira He says, “Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.” (Rev. 2:20). 

He had even commended them for previous good works–being willing to be martyred, faith, service, and love. That doesn’t mean that they get a free pass on lust and idolatry (worldliness and false teaching).

My great concern right now is for Calvary Chapel. They are a conservative fellowship of churches that teach the Bible verse by verse. They have a reputation for being a safe place to fellowship. However, they are promoting the Whosoevers, even giving them a weekly platform in their main pulpit. And the Whosoevers, as I will show are promoting the sin of Balaam and the sin of Jezebel.

Calvary Chapel has not been without scandal or controversy, even currently. This is all quite horrible. But there are Calvary Chapel Fellowships that honor God. Teach the Word. Pray. Evangelize. Love. And make a difference for the Kingdom.

So, with all this going on, I understand that Brian Brodersen has been too busy these last few months to take my (repeated) calls and answer my (repeated) emails and inquiries about what I see happening in the Whosoevers.

But you would think that if there was something demonic happening in his ministry, he might want to know??? He might want to take a stand??? I would!!!

It doesn’t look like it.

Whosoevers Founder Ryan Ries

The Whosoevers began as an evangelistic ministry from Calvary Chapel Golden Springs. Pastor Raul Ries’ son Ryan had a spiritual experience with demons and Jesus and he decided to start a ministry reaching out to the most unchurched in our communities. Even though the Bible says to not lay hands on a minister rashly, Calvary Chapel chose new believers to head up a huge ministry, and has not provided much spiritually mature guidance. I have already written about The Whosoevers and Brian Head Welch here, here, and here. But things have gotten much worse, so after much prayer and after trying to help Calvary Chapel and The Whosoevers by talking personally to them about the danger of all this, I have decided to write again.

If you look at their new website you will find no mention of Jesus Christ in how they describe their organization.

“The Whosoevers is a non-profit organization founded in 2009 between Sonny Sandoval, Ryan Ries, and Brian “Head” Welch. Our mission is to bring like-minded individuals from various subcultures together and create a positive shift in today’s world.”

A positive shift? Is that code for something? It sounds rather New Age to me. It sure doesn’t sound like the Great Commission from Christ.

Jesus didn’t come to earth to bring about a positive shift in various subcultures.

The Benefit of the Doubt, and Yet No Excuse

Now let me begin, by saying that this gets confusing. Because they say a lot of good things. They have the whole “Murder Your Flesh” promotion. Which sounds a lot like repentance. I prayed so hard asking God if I just don’t get it. I used to support the Whosoever movement when it first got started. It looked like a huge harvest of people coming to Christ. But it is different now. I was listening to a teaching by Jacob Prasch and he said that you can’t just go by what they say. You have to look at what they do. Bob Coy preached against sexual sin while he was living in it. People can say good things, but do you see that fruit in the organization as a whole. Please ask God to help you see things clearly, in truth. I want to show you some important clues.

Here is Ryan’s “I Am Second” video where he details his conversion and repentance. You can see he likes to highlight his sin, which always makes me feel a bit polluted. But if you get halfway through it, you might cry.

I don’t get it. Is he just a knucklehead that means well, and makes mistakes here and there? Or is he like the seed that fell among the thorns and worldliness and confusion are drowning out the fruit. I do not know.

I do know that some of the things in the Whosoever movement today are just absolutely, unquestionably demonic.

If Ryan is doing the best that he can, and he just doesn’t understand these things. Then those who are mature and full of knowledge and wisdom need to help him, and correct him. Apollos was a preacher in the book of Acts and he had a good heart, but he had some things to learn. So Priscilla and Aquilla took him aside and helped him.  So he began to speak boldly in the synagogue. “When Aquila and Priscilla heard him, they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately” (Acts 18:26).

What usually happens is that no one will correct the minister in error, but they will attack the blogger pointing out the error. So we will see how that goes.

If Ryan is truly God’s chosen man to minister to the most unchurched, then correct him so that he can be more fruitful. If he is full of the Holy Spirit, he will appreciate it.

“I am come a light into the world, that WHOSOEVER believeth on me should not abide in darkness.” (John 12:46)

“Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? WHOSOEVER therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” (James 4:4)

The Whosoevers and the Doctrine of Balaam

Balaam was hired by King Balaak to curse God’s people. But he couldn’t, because God wanted to bless His people. So he told Balaak how to get God’s people to curse themselves. His idea was to send the pagan women from the neighboring villages into the camp; the men would marry them and be led into idolatry. The plan worked. God’s people married worldliness and cursed themselves.

The enemy is still in the church, trying to get God’s people to marry the world and curse themselves.

This video has since been removed from their page, but here is a screenshot proving that it was there.

This video has since been removed from their page, but here is a screenshot proving that it was there.

Gross Worldliness and Sin Promoted on The Whosoever Website

They will say you need to “Murder Your Flesh,” but if you visit The Whosoevers website, you can click on the “About” menu and select their YouTube page. You can find several videos including this one that is a 20 minute Korn concert. There is NO EVANGELISM in the video. NO CHRIST. It is 20 minutes of people literally screaming out “M*ther F#&K3rs!!!” at the top of their lungs throughout the concert. It is so disgusting that I sat at my computer and wept that they were promoting this on their website. I am so angry about it that I am sick.

WARNING–Explicit images and language (straight from the Whosoevers website)

If you look at their events, you will find information about a baptism as well as an invitation to a secular metal concert without ANY Christian bands. It has a demon in the picture, and Korn will be playing with satanic bands like Cannibal Corpse. I used to listen to them before I got saved. I immediately knew through just the Holy Spirit that I could no longer listen to them! How confusing is it for new believers when they see the church promoting satanic concerts?


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“grab product” another post said, “Come by and gear up.” Did they just go to make money?

Just last month Slipknot had an event in Southern California called “Knotfest” that brought thousands of people.

“Each festival day on Saturday and Sunday will be “13 HOURS OF THE APOCALYPSE” from 11AM to 12 Midnight featuring tons of different festival attractions including the Slipknot Museum, Massive Fire Hell Zone, Packs of Freakish characters, the scariest ride from the Clown’s childhood at the Iowa State Fair, THE RING OF FIRE, a Fighting Thunderdome, a Festival Zipline, a sideshow freakshow and many more to be announced” (

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“you guys are going off today!” Excited? Not horrified and burdened?

Here is a shocking description of the event from Revolver. So despite the fact that “pagan fire performers” and “goat spirit animals” were going to be featured, The Whosoevers thought that this event was “going off.” Unlike the other brave and obedient Christian groups that shared the gospel outside the gates (even facing persecution), the Whosoevers set up a merchandise table inside the festival to sell their t-shirts to Satan worshipers. Yes they were giving out CD’s of their testimonies, but their Facebook posts indicate that they apparently enjoyed the festivities.

In fact, many of their Whosoever Facebook fans, later commented things like, “Oh, I was there! If I had known you guys were there I would have said hi.” No shame. Like it was the mall, or something.

A few weeks ago Pastor Brian Brodersen was on Pastors Perspective (a radio program on KWVE) talking about how he pulled Gungor off KWVE because they have unbiblical beliefs. But he allows the Whosoevers to promote Korn? If you think this is okay, then you didn’t watch the video of the Korn concert above.

A few weeks back, The Whosoever’s Shine Event (located at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa) featured an interview with Fieldy from Korn. A supposed believer, who thinks it is okay to work in a music group that blasphemes Jesus, sing perverted and explicit lyrics and has a satan worshiping lead singer. I listened online and I was actually so surprised to hear how blasphemous Ryan Ries was throughout the interview. Feel free to listen to it here “Interview w/ Reginald “Fieldy” Arvizu (Korn) and Wife Dena” (9/25/14). In this clip you will hear Ryan Ries imply that God hates sincere set apart Christians–“Jesus hates the religious people,” that Jesus may have whipped people with the chord when He cleaned out the money changers–“The Bible doesn’t say that Jesus hit anyone with the whips, but it doesn’t say that He didn’t!” and that He can help you get off drugs if that is what you want–“He isn’t going to force you.” He threw in the usual raw language that he likes to use, like “screwing.”

It was a trip. So irreverent.

He said that Jesus was the first punk rocker. Which makes no sense, since Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not rebel against it.

He said that Jesus was trying to get the religious people out of His Father’s house. But he was trying to get out the merchants. Those who were trying to make a profit out of people connecting to God. If anything, The Whosoevers are merchants. They are constantly promoting their merchandise–hoodies, hats, tanks, t’s, stickers, etc. #themovement #thewhosoevers #korn

They teach another gospel and another Jesus. “You can repent if you want to, but don’t get too holy because that is self righteous. And Jesus is just like us. He is an idol made in our image. If we are punk rockers, so is He!”

It is crazy. Because I was just reading the Bible this weekend and I was in Revelation 1, and I saw Jesus described like this:

12 Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band.14 His head and hair were white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes like a flame of fire; 15 His feet were like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters; 16 He had in His right hand seven stars, out of His mouth went a sharp two-edged sword, and His countenance was like the sun shining in its strength. 17 And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore.

John saw Him and fell on his face as if dead! This is the same John that lived with Jesus in close companionship for three years, even seeing Jesus transfigured. And yet when John sees Jesus in this heavenly experience, he can’t handle it.

It is a sin to change Jesus. It is a sin to compromise His glory to make him appealing to people that don’t like Him. It is a lie.

He is not a punk rocker.

He is God.

The Whosoevers are not preaching holiness. They preach the doctrine of Balaam–get the church to marry the world. Bring the two together. This is evil.

photo (1)You can’t have a Christian ministry promoting the “Prepare for Hell Tour” that Korn and Slipknot are going on! And yet we do! And this is happening in Calvary Chapel!

You can’t expect me to believe that God will display his glory through Slipknot and Korn! But I guess they do expect me to believe it. They expect all the well fed sheep of Calvary Chapels to believe it to. Or maybe they just hide a lot of this from the masses.

14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 What accord has Christ with Belial?  Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? 16 What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said,

“I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them,
    and I will be their God,
    and they shall be my people.
17 Therefore go out from their midst,
    and be separate from them, says the Lord,
and touch no unclean thing;
    then I will welcome you,
18 and I will be a father to you,
    and you shall be sons and daughters to me,
says the Lord Almighty.”

–2 Corinthians 6:14-18

The Whosoevers Promote the Doctrine of Jezebel

Jezebel was the most wicked woman in the Bible. She was responsible for the persecution of God’s righteous people and the introduction of the worst idolatry in Israel’s history. What do false teachers do? They try to seduce God’s people into lies and sin, and if God’s people resist, they persecute them.

Don’t believe me? Let’s just see how much anger this article stirs up! LOL.

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He laughs at his “haters” and posts a picture of a horned man dripping with blood

You even see this attitude in Brian Welch. When Brian went back to Korn, many of his fans did not understand. They were confused and wanted to ask him why he would be going back to a band with a satanic lead singer, and lyrics that are blasphemous and R-rated. He said God told him to. But then he began to antagonize and mock the Christians that were confused by his actions.

    • February 8 he wrote–“I wish I could kill some Christians, then pray and raise them from the dead, then smack their face. But I can’t, so I won’t. LOLOL  ALL LOVE!” 
    • He wrote a song about judgmental Christians and asked his fans to name it. He deleted comments of the Christians, that were wondering what he was doing coming against the church, but allowed non-Christians to cuss out Christians. Help “Love & Death” NAME OUR NEW SONG! It’s about critical, judgemental people who ain’t got no love in their hearts. Lets hear some ideas?” Then thousands of his fans came up with possible insulting names for judgmental Christians (many of whom attend Calvary Chapels and met him through the Whosoever movement).

New Apostolic Reformation, and Occult False Teaching

False teacher Bill Johnson

So, not only are the Whosoevers promoting the satanic, sinful, blasphemous and worldly music culture–they are also allowing Brian Welch to promote his extreme charismatic false teaching to the fans of the Whosoevers. And attacking anyone who speaks against it.

Brian is not a regular Christian. He is a mystic. He is a drunk in the spirit roll on the floor laughing or barking like a dog, “slain in the spirit” type of Christian. The Holy Ghost movie proves his association with false teachers, like Bill Johnson. He shares on his Facebook page when he is attending Bethel Redding.

He even is seen serving communion with blasphemous teacher John Crowder. Watch and tell me that these people are not behaving under a demonic influence. It is shocking. You will feel sick watching this.


John Crowder and Brian Head Welch “toking baby Jesus.” Here we have Brian joining in with him. Crowder sometimes uses a little baby figurine, as a joint.

He sometimes calls it “Jehovah-Juana”

Here is a portion of the letter I emailed to Costa Mesa:

“Brian Welch has a separate Facebook page called Love Drunk Headly. I have friends that go to Calvary Chapel churches that follow this page. This page is very mystical. He writes about his mystical experiences with God. These experiences are typical of those associated with Bethel Redding and the International House of Prayer. I think most people think he is being poetic– “high on his love.” But when you realize that he spends time with people photo 2 (1)who literally preach getting high on God’s love in a blasphemous way, it isn’t just poetic.

    • On June 5 he wrote–“Jesus is revealing deep hidden mysteries to me right now after my trials and I am getting so high on his love.”
    • On March 26 he wrote that a friend asked him how he can learn to feel the love drunkenness. He replied, ” In order to open up the heavenly dimension to make you sensitive to the spiritual/angelic realm ruled by Christ, I recommend that you take in God all day, every day, in any way that you can. Make yourself “attractive” to God. The word says if you “draw near to God,” He will “draw near to you.” Drawing near doesn’t mean for 5, 15 or 30 minutes. Drawing near is a lifestyle. It’s eating, drinking, reading, seeing, listening and breathing in God… All day, every day (as much as your schedule permits of course) . . . ” (he goes on)
    • March 18 he wrote–“I mentioned that I don’t go to church a lot, but I don’t dislike going. I do dislike boring, traditional churches but I respect everybody for what they believe and how they want to live their lives. I usually go to gatherings at nighttime rather than early Sunday mornings. Feels more like a party at night! I was at a spot last night and I had a smile glued on my face most of the night. I even found myself belly laughing hard with friends by the end of the night. Was a blast! I could feel God or angels or something. I don’t see them yet, but I can sense or feel “things” a lot. I know when the atmosphere shifts spiritually. There are some people, who are very normal I should add, with the gift of seeing things in the spirit world. A very young girl last night told me she saw some angels of joy twirling around my head. I believe it, because I could feel stuff going on. I know to some of you that this sounds nuts when you read about it, LOL, but I swear, the more you open yourself up, you actually figure out that it is very real. It’s cool because I totally function normal and I mostly hang out with people who don’t believe in this stuff the majority of the time, but I’m always connected to my spiritual life, especially when I find time to get alone and when I have time off from regular life. When Jesus walked the earth, he was attached to two realms – The earth realm and the heavenly realms. My goal is the same. I can be banging my head at KoRn concerts all over the world, and be connected with God in Spirit at the same time. I used to detach from this world all the time and party with drugs, now I just detach myself from this world and I party with God, & all my peeps (no matter what they believe)! Drugs take you into the spiritual world illegally (spiritually speaking). Jesus Christ takes you into the spiritual world legally.”

Don’t you think they would care about this?

But it gets even WORSE.

On September 17, he shared a video that told about his recent graduation from Jonathan Welton’s “Supernatural Bible School.” In this video below, he encouraged all his Facebook friends to join this school, “to find out what Jesus is really like.”

Johnathan Welton is very dangerous.

Spirit of Error  details some very shocking information below:

Welton claims that all Christians should be reclaiming the following practices from the occult as part of their normal Christian walk.
    • Reading auras: The ability to see invisible energy that surrounds a person and learning information about that person based on the color or form of his or her aura
    • Clairvoyance: The ability to perceive extrasensory information about an object or event from the past, present, or future
    • Clairaudience: The ability to hear sounds, music, and voices sent from the spirit realm
    • Clairsentience: The ability to sense smells sent from the spirit realm, along with tastes and touches
    • The use of power objects: Physical objects, such as crystals and amulets, that contain supernatural powers

photo 4Here are a few quotes from Welton, that send shivers down my spine:

“I have found throughout Scripture at least 75 examples of things that the New Age has counterfeited, such as having a spirit guide, trances, meditation, auras, power objects, clairvoyance, clairaudience, and more. These actually belong to the church, but they have been stolen and cleverly repackaged.”
“We need to begin to use [New Age] counterfeits as signposts. Every time a counterfeit shows up, take it as the Lord presenting you with an opportunity to reclaim . . . the Church’s stolen property.”
(Jonathan Welton)

When is someone going to stand up and say this has to stop!

So I called Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa again, and spoke to Brian Brodersen’s secretary again. I thought he would want to know this stuff. I have still yet to hear a response. And I wasn’t trying to be difficult. I explained that many people I love are involved in this ministry, but I want to warn them and before I did that, I wanted to hear Pastor Brian’s response to all of this. No luck.

This is so demonic. The Bible is clear throughout the Old and New Testaments that we are to have nothing to do with these activities. They have never been a way to commune with God, and they have always been a way of demonic deception. This is literally “doctrines of demons.”

As I was reading Revelation chapter 2 and 3 (Jesus letter to the churches) I noticed that He brings a word of correction to ministries that are even doing some things right. Just because something looks good, doesn’t mean we should ignore serious red flags.

The enemy is always trying to get into and destroy the work of God in the church. He prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. The enemy gets us to curse ourselves the same way Balaam brought down Israel, getting them to marry into paganism. He also gets us to destroy ourselves like Jezebel did, by bringing in false doctrine that appeals to our flesh, idolatry.

The Whosoevers are doing both. Getting Christians to compromise with worldliness and even outright satanism and calling that evangelism. They are also presenting false doctrine, and calling it an experience with God.

And if that is not enough, Calvary Chapel has been warned about it and they don’t want to stop it, fix it, or even warn the sheep that there is a wolf in the sheepfold. Which is surprising because they are so conservative. They speak against Joel Osteen, and The Shack, and they don’t even have any of the books from the teachers Brian Welch is promoting in their bookstore. They never would. But they are ignoring this?

So what are you going to do?

If you go to a Calvary Chapel, please talk to your pastor and your youth pastors. Please let them know what is going on, and what is being promoted. I am not the only one upset about this. There are people reaching out to Brian Welch and warning him of his false beliefs. This is all public. You just need to look to his Facebook pages.

Please pray for these people. But don’t expect that God will just fix them, without us standing up and talking to them about it. God hasn’t just fixed other false teachers or other derailing movements. If we don’t stand up against error in our churches then God won’t deliver us from the error; He will give us over to it. Because we have chosen it.  Error in the church is a judgment. That is why Joel Osteen is still the pastor of one of the largest churches in the world. False teaching and unbiblical ministries, are in themselves a judgment to the people who want to sit under them.

Share your concerns. Don’t be intimidated because they are Bible scholars or because they are successful. We have to hold everyone accountable to the Word of God. The Bereans didn’t even listen to the Apostle Paul until they checked what he taught with the Word of God.

“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears” 2 Timothy 4:3

For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,  teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,  looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,  who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.

Speak these things, exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no one despise you. (Titus 2:11-15)

If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness,  he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourselves. (1 Timothy 1:6:3-5)

There used to be a generation of evangelists that didn’t care about being seeker friendly or relevant. They preached the truth. You don’t need to be cool to be used by God. You just need to be simply honest. Here is a video from A.W. Tozer on real evangelism. I hope that we can get rid of these gimmicks and compromises and just get back to the power of the Holy Spirit and the truth of the Scriptures.

A.W. Tozer on Evangelism — So Good Please Watch

If you still are not convinced, please listen to this sermon by David Wilkerson. He would be rolling over in his grave right now if he knew his ministry Teen Challenge was partnered up with the Whosoevers. If you disagree, you have never heard this sermon.

On November 21, 2014 Brian Brodersen responded to the information presented in this article (and other articles/videos that others have posted online) on the Pastors Perspective Radio Program. He fully supports the Whosoever ministry and said that he has no time to listen to people who want to talk about Brian Head Welch’s false beliefs or associations with worldliness; and he gave some weak excuses for his position. If you would like to listen to the program or read my response to his reasoning, please click on the link below. 

My Response to Calvary Chapel’s Pastors Perspective Program on the Whosoevers

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People Leaving Churches

A friend of mine posted an article on Facebook. It is called “The #1 Reason for Decline in Church Attendance” by Thom Rainer. It was posted on So I decided to read the article, since this topic interests me.

I was not only disappointed, but angry. Instead of encouraging pastors and leaders to get on their faces and PRAY for the sheep God has entrusted to them, and make sure they preaching a fresh word from the heart of God, this article simply gives coercion techniques.

The #1 Reason for Decline in Church Attendance

Few people will argue that church attendance in many churches in America is declining. Our own research indicates that the majority of churches in our country are not growing.

Most of us have ideas about this development. Many suggest that our nation is shifting away from its Christian roots. Thus, churches are declining as a smaller proportion of our country follows Christ.

I will not argue with that premise. Certainly attendance declines are related to massive cultural shifts in our nation. But I would also suggest that one reason for declines has a greater impact than others.

The frequency issue

Stated simply, the number one reason for the decline in attendance is that members attend with less frequency than they did just a few years ago. This matters—a lot.

If the frequency of attendance changes, then attendance will respond accordingly. For example, if 200 members attend every week, average attendance is 200. But if one-half of those members miss one out of four weeks, the attendance drops to 175.

Did you catch that? No members left the church. Everyone is still relatively active. But attendance declined more than 12 percent because half the members slightly changed their pattern.

This phenomenon can take place rather quickly, leaving leaders scratching their heads because the behavioral change is so slight it is almost imperceptible. We rarely notice when someone who attends four times a month fades to three times. Nor do we typically catch it when the twice-a-month attendee becomes a once-a-month attendee.

Five possible approaches

Of course, the heart of the problem is not declining numbers but waning commitment. As I addressed in my book I Am a Church Member, ( membership is becoming less and less meaningful in many churches. When this happens, commitment wanes.

While I don’t want to suggest there is a magic bullet to this problem, I do want to offer some approaches to address it. These five have proven to be the most helpful in hundreds of churches:

1. Raise the expectations of membership. You may be surprised how many church members don’t really think it’s that important to be an active part of the church. No one has ever told them differently.

2. Require an entry class for membership. By doing so, the church makes a statement that membership is meaningful. The class should also be used to state the expectations of what a committed member looks like.

3. Encourage ministry involvement. Many members become less frequent attendees because they have no ministry roles in the church. They do not feel like they are an integral part of the church.

4. Offer more options for worship times. Our culture is now a 24/7 population that works at all hours of the day and all days of the week. Some members have to work during the times of standard worship services. If possible, give them options. One businessman recently told me that he changed churches so he could be part of a congregation that offers a Saturday worship time. Why? Because his job requires him to catch a plane on Sunday morning. We can lament such realities or adapt to them.

5. Monitor the attendance of each member. This approach is often difficult, especially for worship attendance. That is why the traditional Sunday school approach of calling absentees was so effective. Perhaps churches can incorporate that approach through small groups and home groups. Members are less likely to be absent if they know someone misses them.

When membership becomes meaningful

No matter how much you may think people no longer are committed, they still want to be a part of something that makes a difference. They have a desire to be involved in something bigger than themselves.

Unfortunately, in many churches membership has become less meaningful. Until we get our churches back to the committed membership the Apostle Paul mandates in 1 Corinthians 12, we will continue to see declining attendance. However, when membership becomes truly meaningful, our churches will become an unstoppable force for the Kingdom and glory of God.

While these five steps are no guarantee of a turnaround, they are certainly a good place to start for any pastor or church leader concerned about declining attendance.   (Thom S. Rainer)

He didn’t even mention prayer.

These ministers do not deserve churches.

I pray more people leave them.

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The Holy Spirit Makes a Movie? I don’t think so . . .

Well, there is this new movie out.

The trailer opens with Bill Johnson talking.

It premiered at Bethel, Redding.

I am overwhelmed with a burden over this.

I am grieved.

I can hardly write about how horrible this is.



This movie turns legitimate Christianity into some David Blaine/Chris Angel street magick show.

The director,  Darren Wilson says, “This movie is about risk. I want to take the greatest risk possible, and make a movie that is completely led by the Holy Spirit. No plan. No safety. Just show up wherever He leads me, and make God famous” (music crescendos).


Well, the director failed.

God would never lead anyone to interview Bill Johnson.

This movie promotes false teachers and dangerous ministries.

And people who may not have even been associated with false teaching are now lumped together, validating error and demonic manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

Psalm86 exposes Bill Johnson’s false “Holy Spirit”

You can find many more videos on the internet of people at Bethel, Redding laying on the floor screaming, laughing, drunk in the “spirit.” It is disgusting.

This video below is amazing. It shows clips of Bill Johnson’s absurd claims and counters it with the truth of Scripture.

Now, I believe in the Holy Spirit. I believe in the gifts of the Spirit. I am filled with the Holy Spirit. I minister in the gifts of the Spirit. BUT, I do not believe God wants me to get drunk “in the spirit,” or go around the streets giving people some spiritual experience. It isn’t a magic show. That is demonic. I don’t want to touch someone with my hand and make them fall down and shake uncontrollably and walk out of church /unrepentant/. I want to touch people with the Word of God coming out of my mouth /theBible/ and have them fall onto their knees (maybe), sobbing (maybe), broken and repentant (definitely).

The Holy Spirit moves through the Bible. The Holy Spirit leads us TO the Bible. The Bible leads us to Truth. Truth leads us to Repentance. It is all connected. But without TRUTH, there is NOTHING.

“But when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.” John 16:13

Hit the street and preach the GOSPEL.

People will encounter the Holy Spirit when they by faith receive the Gospel.

They don’t need some fake mystical “prophet/healer” to draw attention to humans.

They need SALVATION first.

The Bible says that the Holy Spirit leads us into all truth.

Why would the Holy Spirit move through people teaching error.

It is a false spirit.

A false gospel.

A false movement.

Brian Head Welch formerly from Korn, current “Whosoever,” Love and Death member, currently again in Korn, spiritual guru is also in this movie.

He compares the Holy Spirit experience to a spiritual high.

He is not saying that God’s love is better than drugs. He is saying that his experience with God, feels like using drugs.

On his alternate Facebook page, Love Drunk Headly, he wrote, “Jesus is revealing deep hidden mysteries to me right now after my trials and I am getting so high on his love.” (Love Drunk Headly, June 5).

He doesn’t mean that metaphorically, either.

As you can see him here “toking baby Jesus” with false teacher John Crowder.

They even served demonic communion together.

Brian is very mystical as well.

“In order to open up the heavenly dimension to make you sensitive to the spiritual/angelic realm ruled by Christ, I recommend that you take in God all day, every day, in any way that you can. Make yourself “attractive” to God. The word says if you “draw near to God,” He will “draw near to you.” Drawing near doesn’t mean for 5, 15 or 30 minutes. Drawing near is a lifestyle. It’s eating, drinking, reading, seeing, listening and breathing in God… All day, every day (as much as your schedule permits of course) . . . ” (Love Drunk Headly, March 26).


He goes to Bethel, Redding whenever he gets a chance. He promotes them on his Facebook. So you don’t need to wonder where he comes up with the attitude he shared on his Facebook just a few months ago.

I mentioned that I don’t go to church a lot, but I don’t dislike going. I do dislike boring, traditional churches but I respect everybody for what they believe and how they want to live their lives. I usually go to gatherings at nighttime rather than early Sunday mornings. Feels more like a party at night! I was at a spot last night and I had a smile glued on my face most of the night. I even found myself belly laughing hard with friends by the end of the night. Was a blast! I could feel God or angels or something. I don’t see them yet, but I can sense or feel “things” a lot. I know when the atmosphere shifts spiritually. There are some people, who are very normal I should add, with the gift of seeing things in the spirit world. A very young girl last night told me she saw some angels of joy twirling around my head. I believe it, because I could feel stuff going on. I know to some of you that this sounds nuts when you read about it, LOL, but I swear, the more you open yourself up, you actually figure out that it is very real. It’s cool because I totally function normal and I mostly hang out with people who don’t believe in this stuff the majority of the time, but I’m always connected to my spiritual life, especially when I find time to get alone and when I have time off from regular life. When Jesus walked the earth, he was attached to two realms – The earth realm and the heavenly realms. My goal is the same. I can be banging my head at KoRn concerts all over the world, and be connected with God in Spirit at the same time. I used to detach from this world all the time and party with drugs, now I just detach myself from this world and I party with God, & all my peeps (no matter what they believe)! Drugs take you into the spiritual world illegally (spiritually speaking). Jesus Christ takes you into the spiritual world legally.” (Love Drunk Headly, March 18)

So just PRETEND it IS God . . . Sounds like Peter Pan nonsense to me.

So he dislikes boring churches. I guess by that he means normal churches, where you go and worship and study your Bible and pray.

He prefers to get drunk or high on the “Holy Spirit.”

So he has no hunger for the Word of God, but craves some spiritual fix. Truth doesn’t matter. Just encounter something, and tell yourself it is from God.

No wonder he cannot discern truth from error.

And yet, he is a Whosoever.

He is associated with and promoted by Calvary Chapels.


They are not into this garbage!

They do not have Bill Johnson books in their Chapel Store.

Why is this okay with them?

The Whosoevers don’t care.

They just hashtag Korn all day long.

#whosoevers #movement #korn

Where is the hashtag for standards?

At what point are we just compromising truth for the sake of fame.

Just like the director of this movie said, “to make God famous.”

Wow. So He needed your help?

God is looking for fans?


God is looking for disciples, not fame.

Satan offered him fame in the wilderness and he chose the cross instead. He is famous already. He has a kingdom already. Who is trying to get famous here? Him, or you?

New Age Philosophy with a Christian mask.

It is one thing for the New Apostolic Reformation folks to be a part of a movie like this, but when members of conservative groups get on board; it is insanity.

And there are other people in this movie that I am sure are also false teachers, but come on Veggie Tales?! Did you have to disappoint me too??? When are we going to see Larry the Cucumber get “pickled in the spirit?”

We are in the last days.

May we seek the Holy Spirit.

One of His gifts is discernment.

We desperately need it.

“For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” 2 Timothy 4:3-4

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